RMS - CHMC MATTERS
The Council of Heritage Motor Clubs represents its member Clubs in matters concerning the preservation and operation of heritage vehicles to State and Commonwealth departments. Since its formation in 1970 Council has worked closely with the relevant NSW roads and transport authorities. Council has been significantly involved in the changes from the old Club Plate scheme to the Historic Vehicle Scheme [HVS], in the Classic Vehicle Scheme (CVS), and in the forthcoming Log Book system reforms. CHMC regularly provides submissions to RMS reflecting the majority viewpoint of member Clubs on such matters as vehicle registration and vehicle safety and Council is an active member of the RMS's Historic and Classic Car Industry Working Group and the Vehicle Standards Working Group.
RMS LOG BOOK WORKSHOP - DECEMBER 3RD 2019
As Council advised in the November 2019 “Dinkum Oil” the RMS intended to consult with stakeholders about further development of the Log Book.
Necessary reforms to the Log Book were highlighted by the historic and classic car sectors in the recent Log Book Review, and the RMS noted these, so with a workshop this week RMS has commenced the process for the re-design of the actual Log Book and discussions around improving the processes by which Log Books are issued and managed.
The RMS workshop involved a group representing the CHMC (aka the Bush Council), the ACMC (CMC, SMA, Hot Rods, etc.) and two major historic and classic motorcycle clubs. CHMC was represented by its President, Ray Ives, Committee member, Jenny Fawbert, and Club nominee, Michael Jones. That the RMS considers this initiative of importance was highlighted not only by this opportunity for useful discussions but also the presence of senior RMS staff from several departments – Compliance, Policy, Service NSW, Business Analysis, Technical, Resolution, Stakeholder Engagement and IT.
The day was spent working through what doesn’t work, what could work, and what may be possible in the future with digital technologies for our Log Books. However, it was made clear by all from the hobby sectors that the Log Book could not yet be a totally digitally based system, a hard copy option was necessary.
Clearly the format of the current Log Book, i.e. a piece of paper, was the reform most significant to us, the users at the workshop, and this it seems is a priority at RMS. Re-designing the format so that it both captures the required information about vehicle use for the RMS, Police and insurers, and provides users with conditions of use in a way that works best for both those in the hobby and the RMS was much discussed.
Following our workshop the RMS were going to conduct similar meetings with representatives from the Police, the insurers and Service NSW. A new format Log Book maybe won’t come straightaway but it is in the pipeline.
(November’s CHMC Dinkum Oil can be read at here )
HISTORIC AND CLASSIC VEHICLE LOG BOOKS - OCTOBER 2019
RMS conducted a review of the Log Book Trial earlier this year in which CHMC, as the stakeholder representative for its Affiliated Clubs throughout NSW, played a significant role. The CHMC Committee provided the RMS and the Review contractor, KPMG, with data and guidance, and significantly our Affiliated Clubs were very well represented by their delegates at the Focus Groups which RMS and KPMG ran in July. CHMC clubs also participated in the related online survey.
It was clear from the Focus Groups and CHMC’s own polling of its clubs that there was strong support for the Log Books to be made permanent. There were however a number of critical operational and policy issues that respondents raised and these have been taken on board by RMS and Council has been by advised RMS that these will be addressed over the next 12 months, developing both integrity of and compliance to the Log Books, as well as improving customer experience.
For the present there are no changes to the operation of the Historic and Classic Vehicle Log Books.
Existing requirements continue to apply to participants including:
• Vehicles registered under the Historic and Classic Vehicle Schemes can be operated for 60 days of general road use each year, outside of organised club events.
• Each day of general road use must be recorded in a log book issued at Service NSW branches.
• Owners wishing to use a log book should be a member of a Transport for NSW recognised classic or historic vehicle club, or Approved Organisation participating in the log book condition.
For additional information see Historic and Classic Vehicle Log Book.
Affiliated Clubs will have the opportunity to further discuss the HCV Log Books and other HVS matters at the CHMC General Meeting on October 26th 2019 at Club Macquarie (All Club Secretaries have the General Meeting details)
Enquires can also be directed to the CHMC’s RMS Liaison Officer, Peter Wright, RMSliaison@heritagemotoringcouncil.org.au or 0417 250 798
HVS & CVS LOG BOOKS FROM 1 OCTOBER 2019, THE HISTORIC AND CLASSIC VEHICLE LOG BOOKS WILL BE A PERMANENT FEATURE OF THE HISTORIC AND CLASSIC VEHICLE SCHEMES.
Minister’s Media Release 2/10/19 Historic and classic car enthusiasts will have more opportunities to hit the road outside club events thanks to the Liberal & Nationals Government making log books a permanent feature this week.Minister for Regional Transport and Roads Paul Toole said 50,000 cars had participated in the log book scheme during its trial period.“We know owners of these cars want to be able to take them out for a spin and share their love of these cars with others - that’s why we’ve made it easier for them to keep track of how often they drive them,” Mr Toole said.“Under this scheme, historic and classic car owners can drive their vehicles for up to 60 days each year outside of club organised events.”
Minister for Transport and Roads Andrew Constance said Transport for NSW would deliver phased improvements to the log book scheme over the next 12 months.“We are looking at ways to ensure compliance of the conditional registration and to support motorists by ensuring they have a say in the log book format,” Mr Constance said. “Drivers will need to continue to record the vehicle’s use in the log book and be a member of a Transport for NSW recognised classic or historic vehicle club or approved organisation to use the log book.”
August 16th 2019. The LATEST ISSUE of CHMC's Bulletin - DINKUM OIL - was distributed to all Affiliated clubs two weeks ago - your club Secretary should have it to hand. The July issue covered the recent RMS Log Book Review. If you missed it at your club you can read it here on our Publications page - Dinkum Oil
June 5 2019 RMS HISTORIC VEHICLE CONDITIONAL REGISTRATION FORMS CAN NOW BE COMPLETED DIGITALLY
An outcome of the Historic and Classic Car Industry Working Group* meeting with the RMS on May 29 2019 has been an upgrade to the online Historic Vehicle Declaration Form No. 1259.
The RMS agreed to format the online Form so that it can be completed digitally for renewals and new registrations. The Form can be downloaded from the RMS website and now filled in with Adobe Reader or similar PDF reader.
• These forms cannot be saved once edited. They are designed to be completed digitally, printed, and then signed by the registrant.
• Once signed, the form can be submitted through one of the options listed on the fact sheets to establish a new conditional registration and renew a conditional registration.
• The form must be submitted as an original. Photocopies will not be accepted by the RMS.
The forms relevant to HVS or CVS are:
• Historic Vehicle Declaration (1259)
• Application for Conditional Registration (1246)
• Vehicle Suitable for Safe Use Declaration (1245)
• Classic Vehicle Declaration (1835)
*CHMC is a member of the RMS's Historic and Classic Car Industry Working Group.